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You can sort of turn on the automatic pilot.
I mean, I remember when I was, uh, acting in this play...
Now, that again may be because we're afraid to stay in that place of forgetting...
- Great. - Yeah.
Yeah, it's just so pathetic if one doesn't do that.
to that New York evening...
His name was André Gregory.
And - And, uh, could I also have, uh, an amaretto?
the theme is oneself.
I mean, you know...
No one says what they're really thinking about.
I mean, what would be so great about just sitting there and, uh, doing nothing?
I mean, maybe you'll direct a play, maybe you won't direct a play.
Is a new opportunity
But still, I thought, “Well, you know, if a voice comes to me in a field” -
and having the cup of cold coffee that's been waiting for me all night...
I just feel, uh, just totally at sea. I mean -
And they took us into the basement of this house that had burned down on the property.
to see that Rip van Winkle was still alive.
I mean, if there are insects bothering the plants...
I mean, I read it. I read it, and - and, uh -
and that was the end of the beehive.
Yeah, I think it's that moment of contact with another person.
and you thank God for your heart, and you thank God for your friends...
“Wow. Now I'm really in the theater,” I thought.
I mean, is it just because people are lazy today, or they're bored?
You know, to teach a workshop to actors and directors and whatever.
and he'd been seized by a fit of ungovernable crying...
and then he's gone.
just in order to be affected by something.
Human beings exploded out of this tight little circle that was singing the song.
is that these really crazy little fantasies will just start being played with, you know...
- You mean - - I mean, if you don't have that electric blanket...
I mean, you know, you can go crazy.
Well, didn't George tell me that you were gonna do a play that was based on The Little Prince?
I mean, of course, I admit I might feel a bit nervous for about one second.
and there's Chiquita, there are the children...
but I felt that this creature was somehow coming to comfort me...
can't possibly have any relevance to the subject you're analyzing.
I grew up on the Upper East Side...
And, uh, this must have been about five years ago...
and they'd stretched about this much above my head...
for the first time in my life...
You know, when I went to Ladakh in western Tibet and stayed on a farm for a month...
and I met this young Japanese Buddhist priest named Kozan...
is that they're based on experiments that can be repeated.
I mean, our apartment is cold. It's a difficult environment.
and that wherever I worked, this flag would fly.
And as I was sitting there in mass, I was wondering, “What in the world is going on?”
“Well, of course it's not as great as it used to be, but that's only natural.
“Now, I know you're stubborn, and I know you want to take this thing with you...
because if I lead one of these workshops, then I do become partly a doctor...
Because somehow in our social existence today...
You see, there was this song - I have a tape of it. I can play it for you one day.
I mean, she just liked chicken, Wally, and that was all she would eat.
I just had to put myself into a kind of training program to learn how to be a human being.
'cause he lives nearby in the country and he has a pool.
Okay. Now, I didn't talk with people about it, because they'd think I was weird...
just the small circle of the people that I know as friends...
You know, there was a time when you could have just, for instance, written...
But she really thought the flag was awful.
All day - eating, writing, everything - opening doors...
And then again, one by one, one at a time, we were led out.
So the party just comes to a halt and breaks up.
even though, by performing these roles all the time...
The world comes in quite fast.
Right. That's right.
That's the only way anything is expressed, through these completely insane jokes.
you can really feel that you're on firm ground, you know.
and stowing it away and making sure it's all secure.
So we talked about this and that.
And it, uh - It repeats itself over and over again.
before the arrival of scientific thinking as we know it today...
What about this one?
I mean, you know, the - the fact that I got it-
who'd been in my group in Poland, who was now in New York.
I gave him different banal theories. He said, “Oh, I don't think it's that way at all.”
lead the beehive instead of participating in one?”
Even if they were enjoying the conversation, or they were flirting with me, or whatever it was -
Well - it works, you see.
But forget about the play that you may or may not direct.
Now, she - You know, we started talking. Of course, I started telling her things.
brings you closer to a perception of death.
And I said, “Oh, yeah. The flag.” And I go and get the flag, and I open it up.
That means that the future is somehow sending messages...
he was saying that actually these centers are growing up everywhere now...
And midnight on Halloween, under a dark moon, above these cliffs...
- That's the state I was in. - God.
you may only be helping to deaden the audience in a different way.
The cookie is in No position to know
when Marlon Brando sent the Indian woman to accept the Oscar...
well, then that's just - that's just wonderful.
And this can be true in your work as well.
cook me a nice, delicious dinner.
a magician, everything.
for a moment, get anywhere near what-
are really getting on in life...
Grown-ups were learning how to play again.
because that, again, is close to death.
and, you know, I can even get an “A” if I put in the required effort...
Get out of here.
But somehow it seems that the whole point of the work that you did in those workshops...
I mean, because reality is uniform, in a way...
I mean, you can afford to do it, so you do it...
of my being able to participate on an equal basis in a conversation with people.
And I suddenly had this feeling I was just as creepy as they were...
- Yes. - What is that?
Really?
So we were camped out beside the ruins of this tiny little castle...
or are you doing them mechanically, as we were saying before?
And before I knew it, there were two circles, dancing, you know -
and there were four handprints.
You know, the question is whether the theater now can do for an audience...
Already, what's the difference between that...
could create something so beautiful.